ilona the pest

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Tuesday, November 18, 2008

prop 8 update

it was really depressing to lose in the election (and not just in CA, but in florida, arkansas, arizona...). but we're working on it. i think we have a good chance to get prop 8 overturned in the courts. it completely undermines the very concept of a constitution, and particularly the idea of equal protection, to suggest that a constitution could be amended by a simple majority vote to selectively deny important rights to unpopular minority groups. see, e.g., Romer v. Evans. i'm getting more certain by the day that we're going to prevail.

and if not, well, it'll be back to the ballot box for another round of california's home-grown brand of expensive, irresponsible direct democracy. i honestly think we can win there, too, given another year or two (or three, or four) for the shameful reality of what's been done to sink in.

if there's been one positive benefit of losing, it's that this has been a wake-up call for queer people and our allies everywhere. the recent spontaneous post-election protests have felt like this generation's stonewall rebellion. it's thrilling and moving to stand up with so many others and demand that we all get the same human rights. a vast movement across the country seems to be rising up, having realized suddenly that we are NOT considered equal citizens, and understanding for what seems like the first time how very very wrong that is -- and deciding that we are not going to meekly accept it anymore.


  • At 1:08 PM, Blogger Judith Burton said…

    Read my blog post to know that I stand with you as do many others. We are not going to let this one go. There is a wave of equality that will not let this issue rest. You can tell its about to change by the volume of chaos and resistance that is present. Judith Burton

  • At 5:35 PM, Blogger Unknown said…

    Full equal rights for everyone will prevail. It's a longer and harder path than we thought, but we can definitely make it. Thanks for all of your efforts and thoughts - it makes a difference.

    Have you seen Equality BarCamp?

  • At 5:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    stumbling around twitter (we have the same avatar :) and ended up here. i'm with you -- getting more and more sure we will prevail... eventually.

    i was also thrilled to see the link to EqualityCamp. if you'll be in SF that weekend, you should definitely come (and drag several people with you). the focus is how to win this thing, in the long term, obama-style... netroots-like.

    we've got a blog up, which will hopefully be filling out soon. the wiki will end up being the organizing tool.

    hope you can come!
    hillary / @quepol

  • At 2:16 PM, Blogger Derek said…

    Excuse the intrusion, but I couldn't help myself.

    I think your thoughts on the stupidity (or as you say- irresponsibility) of a direct democracy in matters concerning Human Rights is right on. The protecting of Human Rights shouldn't be established via majority vote.

    But I have a question. What exactly does it mean to say that a person S has a (Human) Right to X? According to American Jurisprudence (cf. The Dec. of Independence) a person S has Right X if and only if God has created person S to have Right X inalienably. So my question to you is: what reason do we have to think that God has given homosexuals the right to marry- or to have civil unions for that matter?

  • At 7:10 AM, Blogger Auke Bruinsma said…

    @Derek, Well first off all, why has America no seperation between religion and government/law?
    Second, who says God forbids such a marriage? Is it the letter from paul forbiddingman in front of the tempel being paid for their sexual services? (Thats not the same as marriage between to people who love each other) Is it about the rappist of 2 people in the city Soddom? (Thats not marriage between to people who love each other)
    I don't understand. Where do you say God forbid such?
    Btw is there any specification in the law about how to know what God says what we can and cannot do?

  • At 11:09 AM, Blogger Unknown said…

    Support individual rights and everyone wins.


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